July 31st, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 27
Three bets today were reduced to 2 because of a non-runner.The other 2 bets produced a winner and also a place win.The gain on the day was 2.54 points reducing the loss to date to -14.52 points.No bets tomorrow as per the rules as it is a Sunday.
Posted by Ivor
July 30th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 24
A loss of 6.2pts today
Sassanian @ 5.1 Lost +0.95pts
Old Brigade @ 4.9 Won -3.9pts
Deep Reflection @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
Saltagioo @ 5.0 Won -4pts
Marine Commando @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Try The Chance @ 4.0 Won -3pts
Manacor @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
Panpiper @ 5.8 Won -4.8pts
Poppys Rose @ 5.0 Lost +0.95pts
Count Of Tuscany @ 5.3 Lost +0.95pts
My Son Max @ 5.3 Lost +0.95pts
Falcon Flight @ 4.8 Lost +0.95pts
Cotswold Village @ 5.6 Lost +0.95pts
Farmers dream @ 5.6 Lost +0.95pts
A loss of 6.2pts
Bank is now £1111.50
Running Total -38.85pts
Posted by Eddie
July 30th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 26
The disappointing results continue.Three selections today,2 losers and the place part of a win/place bet succeeding.Loss on the day was 1.42 points and this leaves the running total standing at -17.06 points.
Posted by Ivor
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 23
A small loss of 0.3pts today
Call At Midnight @ 5.1 Won -4.1pts
Coopers Crest @ 5.3 Lost +0.95pts
Hereweareagain @ 5.8 Lost +0.95pts
Kings Point @ 5.8 Lost +0.95pts
Flouncing @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
A loss of 0.3pts
Bank is now £1173.50
Running Total -32.65
Posted by Eddie
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 60
2 bets today one at Goodwood the other at Musselburgh. One winner at 9/2 and a 2nd place at 4/1. This horse was a 2point bet as it met certain criteria, meaning our profit today was reduced to 2.5 points.
The 60 day trial ends at break even point with our bank sitting at -0.03 points.
I will write my final review sometime tomorrow.
Posted by Jude
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 25
Two losing selections today.The loss of 2 points leaves the running total at -15.64 points.As this system only bets 6 days a week and is supposed to average 5 points per week we should now be showing + 20 points so a fair bit of ground to make up.
Posted by Ivor
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 4 and although 15 selections only one met the criteria, lay 6.0 to 6.9 or 12.1 to 16.9 and the selection won for them. In respect of comments received I do not know about other companies operated by this company however, I am aware that Dream Lays has been around for 3 years and reinvented itself. Perhaps they could answer this question themselves.
12.1 to 16.9 lays do make me shudder.
28/07/2010 16:35 Gdwd Royalorien LOST £3,963.00
28th July Day 4
selections 15 win 1 lose 0 p/l +0.95 ytd +3.7
Posted by Jim
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
hi all sorry for the delay for this weeks post we had a few extra days on the south coast then we intended.
while i was away we had 2 trades to open but one had already been stopped out for a loss which i wont include in the results.
we had 1 new trade this week takink the total open trades to 3.
the closed trades are showing a loss of -600.59.
back again next week.
Posted by Michael
July 29th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 16
Markets Mastered
Hi all
Well, its been a hectic 2 weeks for me with meeting and the sort. This is why I have decided; while giving trading results; to give multi-day trading results in one post. It save time and lets you see all results together.
Thanks for all comments, I hope replies answered your questions. If not, feel free to contact me.
So, these results are for 19/21 July
Monday 19 July
TRADE 1
Placed trade at 17.15 and ended trade at 17.25 with 20 point win
TRADE 2
Placed trade at 17.40 and ended trade at 17.55 with 5 point loss
TRADE 3
Placed trade at 18.00 and ended trade at 18.25 with 20 point win
TRADE 4
Placed trade at 18.45 and ended trade at 19.15 with 20 point win
TRADE 5
Placed trade at 19.35 and ended trade at 19.45 with 20 point win
TRADE 6
Placed trade at 19.55 and ended trade at 20.00 with 10 point loss
TRADE 7
Placed trade at 20,05 and ended trade at 20.25 with 15 point loss
TRADE 8
Placed trade at 20.45 and ended trade at 21.05 with 16 point loss
This gives an overall winning total for the day of 34 points, which at £10 per point, give a total of £340
Tuesday 20 July
TRADE 1
Placed trade at 17.40 and ended trade at 18.00 with 20 point win
TRADE 2
Placed trade at 18.05 and ended trade at 18.20 with 6 point loss
TRADE 3
Placed trade at 18.25 and ended trade at 18.35 with 20 point win
TRADE 4
Placed trade at 18.50 and ended trade at 18.50 with 20 point win
TRADE 5
Placed trade at 19.00 and ended trade at 19.25 with 20 point win
TRADE 6
Placed trade at 19.35 and ended trade at 19.45 with 10 point loss
TRADE 7
Placed trade at 19.50 and ended trade at 20.10 with 10 point loss
TRADE 8
Placed trade at 20.20 and ended trade at 20.30 with 20 point win
So, todays total is a profit of 74 points, which using £10 per point, gives a profit of £740
Wednesday 21 July
TRADE 1
Placed trade at 17.00 and ended trade at 17.10 with 7 point loss
TRADE 2
Placed trade at 17.25 and ended trade at 17.50 with 9 point loss
TRADE 3
Placed trade at 18.00 and ended trade at 18.50 with 20 point win
TRADE 4
Placed trade at 19.00 and ended trade at 19.10 with 60 point win (This trade had a significant downturn and continued to produce even more profit. It would probably have been 100 point profit using judgement and trailing stop loss)
TRADE 5
Placed trade at 19.15 and ended trade at 19.30 with 20 point win
TRADE 6
Placed trade at 19.35 and ended trade at 19.50 with 18 point loss
TRADE 7
Placed trade at 20.00 and ended trade at 20.05 with 20 point win
TRADE 8
Placed trade at 20.15 and ended trade at 20.15 with 20 point win
What a day of trading. First a run of losing trades, but ending with a profit of 106 points, which at £10 per point, gives a daily total of £1060
I did not trade on Thursday or Friday, as I had prior booked appointsment. However, this week has given a fantastic profit of £3040
This is absolutely staggering and we are now approaching a bank of £10.000 which is amazing to say we started with an initial bank of £500
I will post the first half of this weeks results tomorrow, and will give you an update on the bank todate.
I feel this system will be definately one which is added to my trading system
Speak soon
Martin Jones
Posted by Martin
July 28th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 22
A better day today with all lays losing and a profit of 8.55pts
Duty Free @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Sandymount Lady @ 5.9 Lost +0.95pts
Baheer @ 4.5 Lost +0.95pts
Bursary @ 5.3 Lost +0.95pts
Edmaaj @ 5.4 Lost +0.95pts
Born To Excel @ 5.8 Lost +0,95pts
West Leake Bridge @ 5.6 Lost +0.95pts
Stadium Of Light @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Sir Bruno @ 5.0 Lost +0.95pts
A profit of 8.55pts
The bank is now £1176.50
Running Total -32.35pts
Posted by Eddie
July 28th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 59
2 bets today at Goodwood, 1 horse finished 5th the other one won at odds of 11/4, 1.75 points profit made today, the bank stands at a loss – 2.53 points.
Posted by Jude
July 28th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 24
Three selections today but only 1 winner and the net result was a loss of 0.28 points taking the running total down to -13.64 points.
Posted by Ivor
July 28th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
The last time, back in May when I posted about this service we were sitting a loss of 6.6 points or £66 according to the staking plan we use. The three month period is now up and we are sitting 81.4 points down on our original bank, and to the staking plan this would be £810.
For the Period of May the service lost 39.5 points and in June it lost 38. I stopped my proofing on the 20th July, and for the month of July we had seen another loss of 3.9 points.
I am unsure has to what has happened this system especially in the months of May and June and I could put it down to the staking plan going wrong, however this is a genuine service which may be going through a bad patch as everything does at some point in time. The author is also very friendly and quick to help so because of this I am going to place this in the failed section for now and visit it in a few months time to see if the fortunes have turned.
Posted by Sam
July 28th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Well we have day 2 and 3 this is because they were late posting the results. The cynic in me says this may be because day 2 had a loser. The results so far are acceptable.
The concerns about the placing of bets have been confirmed and you cannot get bsp without either a betting bot or sitting at your computer all day. I will continue to record the results at BSP but anybody placing bets earlier in the day will have completely different results to mine and those of Dream Lays. This is because of the odds changing all day and the results being different when you accept or reject bets earlier in the day, from the available selections normally up to 20 each day, that meet or do not meet the price criteria.
I remain open to contradiction from the authors, who I know are reading this, but I believe they should address this falsehood in their advertising.
26th July
Day 2 selections 20 -win 2 lose 1 (5.8) p/l -3.9 ytd -0.1
26/07/2010 14:15 Yarm Thoughtsofstardom LOST £3,948.00
26/07/2010 14:30 Wolv Whispering Spirit WON £3,393.00
26/07/2010 16:45 Yarm Fathsta LOST
27th July
Day 3 selections 24 -win 3 lose 0 p/l +2.85 ytd +2.75
27/07/2010 14:00 Bevl Dubai Glory LOST £3,583.00
27/07/2010 14:10 Gdwd Almiqdaad LOST £3,678.00
27/07/2010 17:05 Gdwd Straight Line LOST £3,773.00
Look forward to any comments
jim
Posted by Jim
July 27th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 21
A small loss of 1.55pts for today
Downward Spiral @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Barnhill Brownie @ 5.4 Won -4.4pts
Tribe @ 5.0 Lost +0.95pts
Dark Halo @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
A loss of 1.55pts for the day
The bank is now £1091.00
Running Total -40.9pts
Posted by Eddie
July 27th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 58
Busy day today at Beverley + Goodwood, with 5 bets in total. The 2 horses at Beverley finished 6th + 11th. 3 bets in total at Goodwood, horses finished 1st, 2nd + 7th. A loss of 2 points today this brings the bank to – 4.28 points.
Posted by Jude
July 27th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 23
Two selections initially today but one became a non runner.The other selection lost so the loss of 1 point takes the running total down to -13.36 points.Still no sign of recovery for this system which is supposed to average 5 points a week.
Posted by Ivor
July 27th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
My name is Jim and I have been asked to review Dream Lays. I started the review on the 25th July. Dream lays offers a multiple lay system and so far there have been 20 selections each day for the first two days.
The system is sold as a subscription service and you can purchase it monthly £59.00 quarterly or yearly. The selections go up in the morning and the results from the day before are avaiable at the same time.
On any given day there are likely to be only 4 to six bets because there is a price criteria of BSP between 6 and 6.9 and 12.1 and 16.9. The odds criteria would indicate this is a backfitted system.They recommend a staking system where you modify your stakes each month to 2% of betting bank ie: £500 bank £10 bet.
The selections are made by going to a dedicated web site about 11.30am each day which is simple site but quite efficient. The selections and criteria leave little room for questions.
You can place your bets before racing however to achieve the BSP price criteria you would need a betting bot or to be at your computer at the time of the race and I am trying to clarify this because the site indicates the opposite. Just to indicate to you the risk with this system there were 20 selections on 25th July 3 winners and 17 losers on balance this would have been a losing day however, each of the winners were outside the price criteia and only 4 qualified and lost.
I will post the result and running totals the following day when I have checked my results versus the board results on Dream Lays web site.
25th . To check these and any other BSP results you can go to the Timeform results page and they give you BSP and ISP each day and you can get the back history of other races.
Results for 25th July
25/07/2010 14:40 Pont Regal Lyric LOST £3,568.00
25/07/2010 15:00 Carl More Than Many LOST £3,663.00
25/07/2010 16:35 Asct Opera Gal LOST £3,758.00
25/07/2010 16:35 Asct Ouster LOST £3,853.00
Day one
20 selections 4 bets 4 losers p/l +3.8 ytd +3.8
Posted by Jim
July 27th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Posted by Sam
July 26th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 20
A profit of 3.8pts today
Tashqeel @ 4.3 Lost +0.95pts
Singbella @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Veeb @ 4.5 Lost +0.95pts
Seaside Sizzler @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
A prodit of 3.8pts
Bank is now £1106.50
Running Total -39.35pts
Posted by Eddie
July 26th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 57
2 bets today at Windsor one finished 5th the other 2nd.
The bank has now moved back into the red taking the loss to – 2.28 points
Posted by Jude
July 26th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 22
One losing selection today and the loss of 1 point drops the running total to -12.36 points.
Posted by Ivor
July 26th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
I have been keeping records for 2 systems using the Safebet Plan software namely my own personal picks and The 50% System.For my personal picks there were 150 short priced selections which had a srtike rate of 52% and to level stakes the ROI was 12.1% but the software staking plan increased the ROI up to 18.56%.For The 50% System there were 81 selections and the strike rate was 45.68% .To level stakes the ROI was 13.90% but again this was increased substantially by the software staking up to an ROI of 27.22 %.I thought it unfair to compare monetary returns as the bets for the level stakes were generally double the stakes for the software staking plan for most of the time.In view of the superior ROI for both tests I shall place this in the approved section but must add that it will not turn a poor system into a profitable one.
Posted by Ivor
July 25th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 56
No bets today
Posted by Jude
July 25th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 19
Another losing day today of -1.1pts
New Planet @ 5.9 Won -4.9pts
Go @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
Observatory Star @ 5.6 Lost +0.95pts
Overule @ 5.6 Lost +0.95pts
Harrison George @ 5.8 lost +0.95pts
A loss of 1.1pts on the day
The bank is now 1068.50
Running Total -43.15pts
Posted by Eddie
July 25th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
For the past week I have been trialling the Horses to Lay service from these guys which costs £35 per month. Access to the selections are through a secure members log in and the selections are available before 12:30 on the day of racing so this will not suit those who cannot access the internet through the day. The target for the service is 8 points per month with horses only being laid between the betfair odds of 3.5 & 8.
I am going to be using a £1000 bank and £10 level stakes, this week there has been 12 bets all of which have been successful returning a profit £114 marking an impressive start to the trial.
Posted by Sam
July 25th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
I managed to get a copy of Bettors Code which is a 40 page ebook costing £27.
Luckily for anyone who bought this they will have only wasted £27 and not the usual £57 or even £99 that many betting systems now cost. This ebook is nothing short of atrocious with large chunks explaining how to bet, where to bet and then finally a few systems that are freely available online thrown in at the end, so if this is infact the bettors code then we bettor stop betting! ( see what I done there! )
The biggest joke of all however is on the sales page where the voice over guy introduces himself as David and then goes on to show his betfair screenshots yet they are from a guy named Jeff Goldberg however we know and as I revealed in another post it is very easy indeed to make fake betfair screenshots.
These guys think people are stupid and will buy anything. Im sorry to say but if anyone does get sucked in by this crap then the vendors may be right in their theory.
You should at least watch the video for the laugh not only to see the cock up with the names but hear their proposterous claims. Watch it here
This has to be up there with the worst I have come accross.
Posted by Sam
July 24th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 55
One winner today at Salisbury with odds of 4/9
Todays winner brings us back into the black, our new balance is 0.28 points.
Posted by Jude
July 24th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 18
A small profit today of 1.7pts
Premier Clarets @ 6.0 Lost +0.95pts
Allybar @ 5.9 Lost +0.95pts
Leader Of The Land @ 5.3 Lost +0.95pts
Lady Lam @ 5.0 Won -4pts
Lay Claim @ 5.0 Lost +0.95pts
Tap dance Way @ 4.6 Lost +0.95pts
Dark Energy @ 5.5 Lost +0.95pts
A profit of 1.7pts
Bank is now £1079.50
Running Total -42.05pts
Posted by Eddie
July 24th, 2010 — Daily Round Up
Day 21
Three selections resulted in two winners and a much needed profitable day.Gain on the day after Betfair deductions was 4.05 points and leaves the running total at -11.36 points. No bets on Sunday as per the system rules.
Posted by Ivor
