Up to Day 31
Approximately 8 bets since I last reported and the system has made nothing while losing nothing over the same period. After 31 days we find ourselves down £29.30
Justin mentioned in another comment that there is no secret codes to betfair, just in the same way that there is no miracles either and at the £97 price tag I can’t recommend anyone buy this. 30 days of testing is not our style here but I havent rated this from day 1 because while the results look impressive I can’t accept them in that they are totally illogical.
1/ One of the rules is no betting on Sundays- Why would the day of the week matter to a horse? It looks like they have removed Sundays from their results as by coincidence, there was some unsuccessful Sundays, this is one of the prime signs of a back fitted system
2/ All the results are quoted to ISP and not BSP- no explanation needed here
This is an easy system to work and while some may find that is has merit I cannot accept it and coupled with the fact that this was a time sensitive offer which is still available for sale I am ending the test and moving this to my failed category.
I have been following betfair miracle since it was released in late jan, and I cant understand why you have put it in your failed systems?
It has just passed a 90 day review on betting system truths, and is only one of three systems to pass their rigorous ‘system m.o.t’ and 90 day live testing.
I have made plenty of profit from the system so far.
Do you have an altogether different agenda?
Hi Derek, thanks for taking the time to read and comment on my site. When I look at betting systems in general I take a different view than the other site in some aspects, I don’t look into who owns the site and the marketing hype in the same depth but more rather whether the actual system works and the logic behind it.
When systems are being created, you can take a set of results and then make rules to fit around them to make a profitable system- this is one such system, for example one of the rules is not to use it on a Thursday, where is the logic in this? Also why do they not quote results to Betfair prices.
Sorry Sam, havent been to your site for a while. Was having a look through some of your recent reviews and saw Betfair Miracle was still in your failed section.
Just to add to your point Sam, there isnt a rule that states “no betting on thursdays” becuase that obviously would signal a back-fitted system.
What it does state, and for transparency purposes for your readers, is “no bets on sundays” because the data collected from the racing post website is different to that available monday to saturday. Becuase the data is different, it cant be applied in the same way, so the day is omitted completely.
Also. of all the systems I have bought in the past, this is the least likely to be back-fitted becuase their is one filter that couldnt be back-fitted.
Regardless, I got a copy when it was first release in jan 2010, and I am still making very good profits each month. One of my better dicisions in life
Hi Derek, thanks for posting on the site. I will dig this system out and re-look at it.
Systems like this don’t work long term in my opinion because the logic is based on manipulation of data.
Why do you think I have another agenda?
I have to agree with this reviewer – the system is simplistic and has no chance whatsoever of making money in the long run. You may get the odd good run but you will lose that and more when the bad hits. I actually bought Ultimate Lay betting from the same author having seen terrific reviews and went with the purchase because of the money back guarantee. After 60 days I was down by about 5 points, totally contrary to the marketing hype and asked for my refund, with proof of my bets provided. My first two emails were ignored and then my more threatening mail was answered politely and courteously, and I was offered the chance to have a free copy of Betfair Miracle instead of a refund. This I was happy with as my aim is to one day find and use a system that actually makes money. I was very disappointed to find that Betfair Miracle is exactly the same concept as the Ultimate lay Betting System, just a couple of minor rules changed, and sure enough 30 days later and I’m losing money again. The only one making any money from this is the system seller and the reps who are getting commissions from sign ups via their sites. The punter is not and will not make any long term money from it. So if you’re thinking of buying this, forget it and save your cash. Have a night out or something . You’ll get more benefit and enjoyment from that.
Oh yes, and I forgot to add that the marketing hype does not tell you that you have to pay for membership of the racingpost site to get the qualifiers, so that’s another £7.50 monthly, or you can choose to pay the system seller £10 per month and he will send the qualifiers (free for the first 20 days or so).
Hy. This system don’t work, i lost 50€ in the last 2 month. After that i sent an email to Jason (betfair miracle owner) asking for the system refund and he never respond to me (since march). Dishonest person because he guarantees the total refund …. bad investment.
I have been using betfair miracle for a while now and have made extremely good profits. The strike rate for May, June and the start of July is 94% with 71 winning lays from 75 qualifiers.
Anyone who hasnt been making money from betfair miracle is obviously doing it wrong!
Speaks for itself really.
I have found Jason (the betfair miracle owner) to be extremely unreliable in sending out the daily emails, always with some excuse such as having been hit by hundreds of computer viruses (worrying in itself if he sends you an email most days) or illness or holiday or his computer being down and his laptop doesn’t have access to the subscription lists on his own server etc etc. He has never replied to any of my (at least
emails and has never sent the daily selections later when I have emailed to say they have not been received. He also, childishly criticises his subscribers as being stupid if they have they audacity to complain about his poor service. I suggest you never deal with this man.
oh my god…. i am new to betfair miracle and been using it for over a month… ive seen huge profits, it is the best system i have ever used… i think the problem with half you lot is you havent followed and read the pdf properly… it quite clearly filters out market movers – i cant recommend it high enough… ive even bought ultimatelaying off the same author – yesterday i had 10 qualifying bets following the system to the law…. all 10 lost at fixed £50 stakes. total profit was £500 in a day FACT…..
if you can show me some proof i will allow this to remain, if not its gone in 48hrs
Sam
Did you see this guys(Fashs’) proof from his posting on the 17th August 2010…?
Thanks
Guy
No- Do you use this system Guy?
I know this is a late comment, but I bought Betfair Miracle two months ago and have also had great success with it even from NZ.. . . . so also can’t see why it’s on the failed list.
Also remember this is 5 months after the last comment, would be interested how the pro BM guys are still going with it?
Perhaps this needs re-visited Darryl, I did not like it when I reviewed it, my main grip was that the system was blatantly back fitted, I think on of the rules is don’t bet on Thursdays or something like that?
Hi I’m thinking of getting betfair miracle , read the review on Grahams website and it comes recommended, but there are so many varied reports about the system, I not so sure? How would Graham give it a green and you fail it sam ?
Well, different people have different opinions on products but I may have been too harsh on this, I am unsure. It is in the pipe line to be re-looked at. Grahams site is like mine in that things are done the right way for the right reasons.
I will look forward to your next review of betfair miracle , and after that I’ll make my decision on whether to get it or not. It’s nice to have some one not hold back when checking a system, I mean after all if it doesn’t like up to it’s 91 % strike rate as per the website then there must be something wrong.
I’ve been using bf miracle since Dec and made nearly £2500 profit between 01/12/10 and 01/06/11 although I increased my stakes quite a bit on different bets. I’ve received Jasons emails everyday without any complaint and I believe this is a viable long term system.
Hello, I am also considering BF miracle, but am hesitant given the initial review. In all fairness, claims by people about making good profits from system are always viewed rather pessimistically, as we never know if they are part of the advertising hype or not, or are acting – of course, people who claim to have made profits are free to post some proof of this, but I guess they’d argue “why should they” – if we don’t believe them, well too bad! then we’ll will be the ones to lose… can’t win one way or the other I’m afraid…
I’ve been using Betfair Miracle for over a year now and have just cancelled my subscription to the £10 per month tips. It is easy to check whether this system works for yourself as HRS publish all the results going back a few years. I can vouch for the fact that the results are accurate for at least the last 12 months. I’ve done an analysis myself from 1st of January 2011 until 1st August 2011 (anyone can do this as I said earlier). The key findings from my analysis were as follows:
234 selections with 35 of them actually winning their races. So a strike rate of 6.69 (quite a bit less than the 9.0 claimed). Strike rate calculated as 234 divided by 35.
The average Betfair starting prices of all winning selections was 5.83. Now the lay odds are always a bit higher than the back odds so I added 5% to the 5.83 to allow for this and came up with lay odds of 6.12.
So if we assume a lay stake of £50 we can work out that we would have made £9950 before allowing for commission at Betfair and any losing lay bets (234-35 x £50= £9950). Allowing for commission at a rate of 5% you are left with a gross profit of £9452.50.
35 selections at average lay odds of 6.12 loses you £8960. So if we subtract 8960 from 9452.50 you are left with a profit of £492.50. Also you would be charged £10 per month for the tips so £70 needs to be taken off £492.50 – £70 leaving a net profit of £422.50. This averages out at £60 net profit per month.
So I agree that the system is profitable long term. However the amount of time and effort that has to go into laying all the selections is very demanding and time consuming and in my opinion is not worth the effort for such a small return on investment.
The system may have had a strike rate of 90% in the past but my experience has been that it is now running at 67% so far in 2011. Another consideration is that is is difficult to always lay a horse at odds of above 3/1 as the odds can change right up to the off. So you can end up laying a horse that does not end up being a selection as the odds have changed just before the off and this can leave you out of pocket.
I should also say that my previous post also includes all the Bonus system selections. I found that the performance of the Main and Bonus systems was very similar.