Laying Autumn Profits Final Review
I have been trialling Laying Autumn Profits since it was relaunched at the beginning of September. To give a bit of background on what I mean by relaunched, Chris who runs this system / service also operates Laying Summer Profits during the months June, July and August . Laying Autumn Profits is therefore the continuation of this but for the autumn months of September, October and November with a few ” tweaks” to the criteria to improve the results for the time of year. This is a new approach to me anyway and one that seems logical on the outset.
Myself and the guys who kindly help me with the website normally carry out each trial for a minimum of three months but because this is only available for another two months I feel that based on my experience I should wrap this up now.
So, Firstly Laying Autumn Profits can come in either of two forms. The pdf manual is available to purchase at a one off cost of £95 which is priced at the top end of the market. Similarly the option to receive the selections each day via email is available at a cost of £97 per month and to be honest this is laughable, no service is worth that each month.
Historically the website claims to make an average of 13 points per month, and to £100 level stakes has made the following profits since 2005 ( note these results for some reason do not include commission),
| 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | |
| SEP |
£2,683.00
|
£3,502.00 | £1,095.00 | £1,147.00 | £2,620.00 |
| OCT | £1,415.00 | -£1,158.00 | £2,180.00 | £862.00 | £2,130.00 |
| NOV |
£608.00
|
£1,571.00 | £492.00 | £491.00 | £437.00 |
| TOTAL |
£4,706.00
|
£3,915.00 | £3,715.00 | £3,767.00 | £5,187.00 |
To put this into the context of our trial where we use £10 level stakes the total profit as shown on the site would be £2129
During September 2010 we had a total of 139 bets meaning a total of £1390 was staked, our return was £82.60 after betfair comission which seems to tie in with the pattern of results displayed on the website. Whether the return on investment of 5.9% represents value to you as the bettor would be a thing of personal choice but with the average BSP for the month being 3.28 the odds are low compared to some that I have seen and this does mean that the number of losing bets could be expectedly higher especially with the number of qualifying selections. During the month the longest losing run was three which happened on three occasions. The longest winning run was twelve which occured in the middle of the month, we had one other run of eight but apart from this we were up and down quite frequently.
Do I recommend this? Well yes and no, the number of bets is not something that I would be comfortable with but for someone who likes plenty of action with a profit at the end then this may be for them. I definitely do not recommend that anyone join the selection service, this is based purely on the price as I feel it is way too expensive.
Going by what I have seen and the price of the manual it would take approximately 6 weeks to recoup the initial cost using £10 level stakes which I have every confidence would happen.
Based on the fact that an 8+ point profit after commission was made and due to the relatively low liability of the selections I am going to move this to the approved section.
You can check Laying Autumn Profits out Here
Hello,
I came across this site and I wanted to leave a note about my experience with this system, as there are good and bad things to say.
Firstly, my own experience is slightly different to the above and the results quoted on the sales page. The difference comes from the prices before the off, sometimes I get selections that the author doesn’t and vice versa. The prices can vary wildly before the off and you really can’t compare them to the BSP prices at all.
For September, I saw a profit of 4.93 points over 128 bets (66.4% strike rate and yield of 1.8%). October for me saw a loss of 0.89, from 94 bets and 69.1% SR. This is compared to +6.45 according to the website. This month i’m up +0.98 so far from 18 bets.
Now for the positive. I have stuck with this system because I spotted very early on that by filtering selections on price we were missing out of a lot of profit. Not everyone will be comfortable with this but I adjusted the upper lay limit to 15.0.
September would have given +27.73 (5.2% yield on liability), October +7.91 (1.7% yield on Liab.) and +2.28 so far for Nov (2.8% yield).
So the main system, not so good in my opinion. In fact, comparing the this year to the previous results have backtest written all over them. But if you are willing to accept a higher liability, over the long term you have a positive expectancy of £3.30 per £100 risked.
Hope this helps,
Dave